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looks like romero is more of a “joker” than mr. deadNburried is
I could not agree more. While Heath Ledger was a fine actor, his character had nothing in common with the character he was supposed to be playing except the name. The whole reason the character was called the Joker was that he played lethal ‘jokes’ on people. Mr. Ledger’s character was just a garden variety anarcist.
I always imagined that there were two different Jokers: the classic one, who’d use elaborate pranks to get filthy lucre, and the Heath Ledger one, who just wants to screw around with society. For convenience, I call the latter version “Mr. Punch” instead.
Haha… Mr. Punch. Ledger’s “Joker” was just a sociopath with clown makeup and a bad suit.
Also, turning the city’s water supply into jelly would seriously fuck things up all over the place. You’d have pipes bursting from the pressure, nothing to drink, surgeries would be halted, crops would die, etc. And I mean, how would you turn it back, anyway?
o_o How would you turn it IN to jelly the first place. I’d really like to know that :3
assloads of gelatin in a main water supply would do it…assuming it could set for a period of time.
To turn it back you just put it in your mouth and just slosh it around.
agreed. that is what i do when i am thirsty and all there is is jello
but which joker won the academy award.
it would appear you have not read any of the comics in which The Joker appears.
Heath Ledger’s version of the Joker resembles the comic book version of the joker from the later comic’s where as the TV joker is more like the early comic’s. in later comics the joker became a very dark character but then so did batman, in this graphic novel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkham_Asylum%3A_A_Serious_House_on_Serious_Earth they suggest that batman is in fact worse than the people he locks up.
I say Heath Ledgers joker more closely resembles the joker I know and love from the era of comic’s i read.
actually the joker in the original comic was just like the Heath ledger joker, he was supposed to be batmans moral opposite not some prankish joke but a cold hearted f-ed up guy. badman and the joker both suffer from emotional tramas when they were young and they respond differently. one becomes a masked crime fighter with some issues the other goes batshit crazy and becomes a murderer…romero or whoever was an idiont. the reason he was called the joker was because the way he killed people were fucked up jokes
“The character he was supposed to be playing”? He was supposed to be playing the character he played…do you not understand what you just said? Do you think he was supposed to play it differently? I’m pretty positive it wouldn’t have been used if it wasn’t how it was supposed to play.
Actually Ledger’s character was based on the original Joker character from the early Batman comics. Romero’s version is the insulting edit done to the character
Even the Scarecrow could use the water supply better.
Priceless heh!
Those who don’t know: This original Joker, played by Cesar Romero, is from the 1966 Batman series.
But what would Brian Boitano do?
The origional Joker WAS a psychopath… To say that “character had nothing in common with the character he was supposed to be playing except the name” is to show that you dont understand two things: That sesorship turned the joke into a joke. And that the batman TV show WAS a joke.
*KERPOW*
Just to prove that the masses have no blody clue what they are talking about.
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_(comics)
In his initial dozen or so appearances, starting with Batman #1 (1940), the Joker was a straightforward homicidal maniac, with a bizarre appearance modeled after the Joker playing card. He was slated to be killed in his second appearance,[16] but editor Whitney Ellsworth suggested that the character be spared. A hastily drawn panel, demonstrating that the Joker was still alive, was subsequently added to the comic.[17] For the next several appearances, the Joker often escaped capture but suffered an apparent death (falling off a cliff, being caught in a burning building, etc.), from which his body was not recovered.
From the Joker’s first appearance in Batman #1, he has committed crimes both whimsical and inhumanly brutal, all with a logic and reasoning that, in Batman’s words, “make sense to him alone.”
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In the 1950s and 1960s, following the imposition of the Comics Code Authority censorship board, the comic book’s writers characterized the Joker as a harmless, cackling nuisance.
Just wanted to comment that you are indeed right.
You sir, are my hero. All these idiots that just try to sound like they know what they are talking about need to be castrated so they can not reproduce. Honestly there should be an IQ test done to see if you can reproduce, it would save the world a lot of problems.
why would you waste time castrating someone who comments on the inaccuracy of a comic about comic book characters? it just seems redundant.
It would be funny if I didn’t know several people who are comic-nerds that get more tail than I do, a non-comic-nerd.
Regardless, this is a very special niche knowledge. I don’t expect the average person to know much about the history of Joker anymore than one would expect the average Joe to know about every layer of the cerebrum.
Did he died?
Yes, the Joker is a crazy s.o.b, he shot Barbara Gordon and paralyzed her just because he could. He shot one of Gordon’s wives in front of him and killed her on the police stairs because he could. The Joker Heath Ledger played is the correct Joker that is portrayed in comic books, the original material. The tv show from the 60′s was a joke, much as the two Batman movies joel shumaker made were as well.
The Ledger Joker sucked for not being entertaining, the fact that he was very expertly modeled after another, also not entertaining comic book character merely makes him very accurately not entertaining.
For what it’s worth, I prefer the Joker from the animated series. Evil enough to be reckoned with, but fun to watch.
i like this comic.
Why would you want a psychopath to be entertaining? Whenever i watch TDK i get chills just thinking about the Joker in a realistic light. Maybe i take film too seriously, but i have never laughed once at what the Joker did in that film. He killed indiscriminately, he showed close to no care for his own well being, and his seemingly unplanned-planning was reckless and almost impossible to anticipate. i didn’t see a need for the Joker to be entertaining at all. But that’s just me.
In all honesty, i have only read The Dark Knight Returns and glanced over some older Batman comics, so i don’t think i have the best grasp on what his character is exactly, but most of what i have read leads me to believe that i sure as hell would never want to be confronted by the Joker or a Joker-type character, and i know i wouldn’t be laughing about whatever it is that he would do. The whole motivation for what he does scares the shit out of me. i can’t think of another villain in literature or film, besides the devil himself, that is as scary to me as the Joker. And i think Ledger pulled it off gloriously, or at least he has been the best on-screen adaptation of the Joker character to date. Romero is probably the worst, in my opinion.
For what it’s worth, the (original) animated series joker was effed up, too. He did al LOT of shit just for the hell of it. To watch people squirm when they found that they no longer had the control they were so comfortable with.
Also, while you’re certainly entitled to your opinion, don’t speak badly about the dead. He put more of himself into his work than any of us could possibly comprehend and if you didn’t like his rendition, you probably don’t fully grasp what the joker stands for in the DC Universe.
slam someones head on a pencil. Do a bunch of drugs. die an untimely death and then everyone will know how well I handled the pressure.
The way they were played had nothing to do with the “joker they were supposed to play”.
As an actor if you are handed a script with “I will turn the river into Jello” then you play it that way.
Actor’s (for the most part) have no control over the script… your job is to characterize the script.
Also notice the differences in time and type. We have a 2008 movie version and a 1966 TV turned movie. In 1966 it was considered risqué to talk about being pregnant on TV…
Different scripts=Different roles
SUCK MY DICKSICLE!!!!!! HEATH LEDGER IS BETTER THEN ALL OF YOU!!!!!!aaahnhhhhhhnjumik,mjunhytbhtgfdgbvgrbfdasaa/Lazin, im sorry, was his Oscar winning performance not as good as YOUR Oscar winning performance? Thats right, suck my dick
*ahem*.., er,.., um, excuse me, but I was looking for the “Kingdom of the Dorks”. I am a “Warrior Spirit”, resurrected and come to offer an “Epic Quest” to retrieve the “Joker-Stone”. It is a “Sacred artifact” that protects the world from the evil “Inter Bridge” troll. Dissolved and sprinkled on frozen pizzas or mixed in with “Mountain Dew” it could wreak untold destruction upon the troll population. Last we heard, it was under the guard of one “Heath Romero”, an unruly miscreant with a penchant for turning pencils into jelly. Why turn pencils into jelly you ask? Fuck, we don’t have any idea but it sure sounds annoying let me tell you, and we must stop it from happening at all costs!(bangs fist on table). Now who’s with me lads!?!?…
People calm down, we all know that there is only one Joker, and his voice is Mark Hamill. I agree that while Ledger’s Joker is more compelling, it slightly forgoes the prank aspect. Yes he sets up the whole exploding boats thing, but thats not really a prank. Putting a crazy guy with a bomb in him in prison is getting closer, but still not really a prank, just brilliant planning. Hamill’s Joker (From the Batman cartoon from the 90′s) was as sadistic as Ledger’s, but he hid his evil behind humor and a smile, which is far more unsettling. He killed and ruined people, but he also used actual pranks to do so (exploding jack in the box, a lapel flower that squirts poison just to give you an idea). And prehaps most importantly, Hamill’s Joker LAUGHED. The Joker’s maniacal cackle, to me at least, is just as iconic as his face.